Tim Ellis
07-13-2008, 10:46 PM
I'll post more later but here's the first "headshot" from a recent
pinup session.
the model is 22 but looks 15
pinup session.
the model is 22 but looks 15
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Adam Schmidt
07-13-2008, 11:20 PM
Hey Tim!
Great to see you here!
Is this straight out of the camera, with no retouching done??
I ask that because I really like the image in many ways, but it looks like eyes are a tiny bit bloodshot and I see a shadow under HER left eye that I'd remove with retouching.
Great contrast and bright colors. Very cool.
I remember a "rule" that we're not supposed to look into the PALM of the hand, so perhaps turning her wrist around so we saw more of the back of her hand would help.
And one last thing. Sorry, you didn't ask for CC, but you're getting it anyway. lol :) I feel that HER right cheek, the side to our image left, should have a little bit of shadow on it. The lighting looks a little flat, which perhaps is the style you're going after, I don't know, so tell if that's what you wanted.
Thanks for sharing and I hope you share MANY more images with us all!!!!!
Great to see you here!
Is this straight out of the camera, with no retouching done??
I ask that because I really like the image in many ways, but it looks like eyes are a tiny bit bloodshot and I see a shadow under HER left eye that I'd remove with retouching.
Great contrast and bright colors. Very cool.
I remember a "rule" that we're not supposed to look into the PALM of the hand, so perhaps turning her wrist around so we saw more of the back of her hand would help.
And one last thing. Sorry, you didn't ask for CC, but you're getting it anyway. lol :) I feel that HER right cheek, the side to our image left, should have a little bit of shadow on it. The lighting looks a little flat, which perhaps is the style you're going after, I don't know, so tell if that's what you wanted.
Thanks for sharing and I hope you share MANY more images with us all!!!!!
Misty Lingnau
07-13-2008, 11:48 PM
I agree with Adam. Love the shot, the colors are very bold and pop out at ya. I cant help but say this. My husband says if you look at peoples faces that one half of it looks slightly different then the other and he says that is because everyone has a good and bad side. If you cover the left side of her face the right side(with the shadow) shows her dark side and if you cover up the right side you see her innocent(good) side. Ok had to point that out.
Adam what is the rule with the palm of the hand? Never heard of it, but then again I have only been doing this for a year and 1/2:scratchhead:
Adam what is the rule with the palm of the hand? Never heard of it, but then again I have only been doing this for a year and 1/2:scratchhead:
Adam Schmidt
07-13-2008, 11:55 PM
Misty, it's just that "don't show the palm of the hand or the back of the hand, but more of the side of the hand" in poses. Sometime, when I get a little extra time, lol, I'll do a series of images of hands that show both the good and the bad of hand posing. What Tim did here with her hand isn't really BAD, I feel a turn of her wrist would've made it look more feminine.
Tim Ellis
07-14-2008, 12:22 AM
hehehe.........CC Welcomed or I wouldn't have posted. Actually it is right out of the camera with very little retouch at this point. I hadn't finished the eyes completely when I posted but now the new version is done. I'm a little mixed about the shadows. I actually decided to flatten the light a little because I'm trying to get the Magazine exagerated pinup look where , in alot of them, you see really flat but good light, with exagerated everything else. But points well taken on the shadows.
Good call on the hand........ I'm still working on poses.
Good call on the hand........ I'm still working on poses.
Adam Schmidt
07-14-2008, 12:27 AM
Tim,
I remember you from another forum and you are an excellent photographer. I hope that your image posting will help both you and others that look at them here. I'm glad to see you sharing. :)
I remember you from another forum and you are an excellent photographer. I hope that your image posting will help both you and others that look at them here. I'm glad to see you sharing. :)
Tim Ellis
07-14-2008, 04:35 AM
Tim,
I remember you from another forum and you are an excellent photographer. I hope that your image posting will help both you and others that look at them here. I'm glad to see you sharing. :)
Yep that was me :) Thanks for the compliments. It's fun to learn.....that's why I love being a photographer...... so far I like it here....so I will be contributing.
Now I need to get rid of that pesky shadow and those red veins in her eyes :biggrin:
I remember you from another forum and you are an excellent photographer. I hope that your image posting will help both you and others that look at them here. I'm glad to see you sharing. :)
Yep that was me :) Thanks for the compliments. It's fun to learn.....that's why I love being a photographer...... so far I like it here....so I will be contributing.
Now I need to get rid of that pesky shadow and those red veins in her eyes :biggrin:
Adam Schmidt
07-14-2008, 04:39 AM
Tim,
For clarity, on that other place, I always went to look at the images you posted and no, it wasn't because they were always pretty ladies and sometimes scantily clad, lol, but because you have great ideas and seem to be always trying to do something different with backgrounds, lighting, etc. You're innovative, that's the word. :)
For clarity, on that other place, I always went to look at the images you posted and no, it wasn't because they were always pretty ladies and sometimes scantily clad, lol, but because you have great ideas and seem to be always trying to do something different with backgrounds, lighting, etc. You're innovative, that's the word. :)
Tim Ellis
07-14-2008, 05:57 AM
Thank you Adam ..... :biggrin:
Tim Ellis
07-16-2008, 02:35 AM
Here's a few more from the same shoot.
I need to give credit where credit is due.... the background idea was borrowed from Robert Alvarado whom I consider to be one of the top Pinup Photographers. I know alot of you are going to tell me that some seem a little overexposed but that was the look I was actually trying to get this time around. I'm working on different looks. CC is welcome.
I need to give credit where credit is due.... the background idea was borrowed from Robert Alvarado whom I consider to be one of the top Pinup Photographers. I know alot of you are going to tell me that some seem a little overexposed but that was the look I was actually trying to get this time around. I'm working on different looks. CC is welcome.
Adam Schmidt
07-16-2008, 02:41 AM
Man, you are really good! You and Robert both, and yeah, he's VERY good! Uhm, is it a little nipply in here? lol
Tim Ellis
07-16-2008, 02:54 AM
Man, you are really good! You and Robert both, and yeah, he's VERY good! Uhm, is it a little nipply in here? lol
:) Yes Robert is very talented and I give him all the credit in the world for motivating me to be as good. I'm still trying....... I've got some more to post later.
:) Yes Robert is very talented and I give him all the credit in the world for motivating me to be as good. I'm still trying....... I've got some more to post later.
Tim Ellis
07-17-2008, 08:14 PM
I've been doing Pinup for awhile but just started marketing it...... I got my first paying gig this morning from the examples I posted above......
Tim Ellis
07-23-2008, 07:01 AM
So here's the same girl..... I know this isn't really pinup style but I treated it like one when working on the backdrop and effect.
Adam Schmidt
07-23-2008, 07:03 AM
That's pretty nice, Tim. Wow, that image is huge! lol. Largest I think I've seen on here so far. Is the longest side 600 pixels and you have it at 72 dpi?? Or did you go higher dpi?
Tim Ellis
07-23-2008, 07:06 AM
sorry I'm fixin' it now :)
Much Better !!!
Much Better !!!
Adam Schmidt
07-23-2008, 07:09 AM
Oh, no, not a problem, I wasn't complaining. I was just curious what size it was for it to look like that here. Do you know the exact size of what was posted?
Tim Ellis
07-23-2008, 07:12 AM
Oh, no, not a problem, I wasn't complaining. I was just curious what size it was for it to look like that here. Do you know the exact size of what was posted?
The first one was 1144 x 1638 at 72 dpi. I have no idea why it did that. I resize them using an action and its supposed to resize them to 700 on the long side. I had to go back and manually change the size.
The first one was 1144 x 1638 at 72 dpi. I have no idea why it did that. I resize them using an action and its supposed to resize them to 700 on the long side. I had to go back and manually change the size.
Adam Schmidt
07-23-2008, 07:15 AM
Interesting, from what I see in the settings of the software, it should only allow a maximum size of 600 pixels on the longest side. I may need to see why it let it through. To keep download times reasonable and not fill up the server, image file sizes need to have a cap on them. Must be a setting somewhere in this software that missed. Thanks for the info. Great images you're creating, keep it up!
Kristin Gentry
07-23-2008, 02:04 PM
The last one has a little nipple showing... Don't know if you mind?
Kristin Gentry
07-23-2008, 02:06 PM
Oh, the last one on the first page of photos, I didn't know there was one more!
Tim Ellis
07-23-2008, 07:40 PM
The last one has a little nipple showing... Don't know if you mind?
Pinup is about the tease :)
Pinup is about the tease :)
Kristin Gentry
07-23-2008, 08:34 PM
haha! Nice! :)
Tim Ellis
08-04-2008, 03:52 PM
With so many new people, I thought I would bump this thread up and see what kind of CC I get.
Doug Brown
08-04-2008, 04:04 PM
Here's a few more from the same shoot.
I need to give credit where credit is due.... the background idea was borrowed from Robert Alvarado whom I consider to be one of the top Pinup Photographers. I know alot of you are going to tell me that some seem a little overexposed but that was the look I was actually trying to get this time around. I'm working on different looks. CC is welcome.
Since you bumped this for more C&C...I love what you are doing here. I would particularly be interested in your lighting set-up on the blue one if you would care to share. Thanks.
I need to give credit where credit is due.... the background idea was borrowed from Robert Alvarado whom I consider to be one of the top Pinup Photographers. I know alot of you are going to tell me that some seem a little overexposed but that was the look I was actually trying to get this time around. I'm working on different looks. CC is welcome.
Since you bumped this for more C&C...I love what you are doing here. I would particularly be interested in your lighting set-up on the blue one if you would care to share. Thanks.
John Haldane
08-04-2008, 04:16 PM
Just another reminder how old I am...
I love the colors, but the piercings are awful. They are so distracting that a beautiful woman becomes, for me, an image to avoid.
I am glad I am not in the business of photographing people. Between piercings and tattoos, I would be unable to do a good job.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my eyes are looking elsewhere. Give me Norman Rockwell over pins and ink any day. (*rolls eyes at old self*)
http://www.grandmemories.com/effects/070a.jpg
I love the colors, but the piercings are awful. They are so distracting that a beautiful woman becomes, for me, an image to avoid.
I am glad I am not in the business of photographing people. Between piercings and tattoos, I would be unable to do a good job.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my eyes are looking elsewhere. Give me Norman Rockwell over pins and ink any day. (*rolls eyes at old self*)
http://www.grandmemories.com/effects/070a.jpg
Tim Ellis
08-04-2008, 05:56 PM
Since you bumped this for more C&C...I love what you are doing here. I would particularly be interested in your lighting set-up on the blue one if you would care to share. Thanks.
Thanks..... I used a basic high key setup for the background and then had a b-800 (alien bee) with a 40" softbox just to camera left and the same setup for fill. I was actually trying to get a slightly blown out effect to duplicate alot of what you used to see in magazines.
Thanks..... I used a basic high key setup for the background and then had a b-800 (alien bee) with a 40" softbox just to camera left and the same setup for fill. I was actually trying to get a slightly blown out effect to duplicate alot of what you used to see in magazines.
Tim Ellis
08-04-2008, 06:56 PM
Just another reminder how old I am...
I love the colors, but the piercings are awful. They are so distracting that a beautiful woman becomes, for me, an image to avoid.
I am glad I am not in the business of photographing people. Between piercings and tattoos, I would be unable to do a good job.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my eyes are looking elsewhere. Give me Norman Rockwell over pins and ink any day.
John.....thanks for the CC. I appreciate your opinion even if you think it's a sign of your age :) Actually your opinion means more than most for the simple reason that you are telling me what appeals to you without being clouded by experience with Portrait Photography. That's actually the way I try to shoot. I've always said that in order to break the rules you have to know them first, but how sweet it is when you break the rules !!!!!!
I love the colors, but the piercings are awful. They are so distracting that a beautiful woman becomes, for me, an image to avoid.
I am glad I am not in the business of photographing people. Between piercings and tattoos, I would be unable to do a good job.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my eyes are looking elsewhere. Give me Norman Rockwell over pins and ink any day.
John.....thanks for the CC. I appreciate your opinion even if you think it's a sign of your age :) Actually your opinion means more than most for the simple reason that you are telling me what appeals to you without being clouded by experience with Portrait Photography. That's actually the way I try to shoot. I've always said that in order to break the rules you have to know them first, but how sweet it is when you break the rules !!!!!!
Doug Brown
08-04-2008, 08:42 PM
Thanks..... I used a basic high key setup for the background and then had a b-800 (alien bee) with a 40" softbox just to camera left and the same setup for fill. I was actually trying to get a slightly blown out effect to duplicate alot of what you used to see in magazines.
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks. I shoot quite a bit of "glam" but, have recently started a "co-op" with a pin-up airbrush artist and have been seeking a better light setup. I like yours and think I'll give it a shot this weekend. I think I'll add a sheet of white backer board on the floor for a little reflection as well.
Doug
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks. I shoot quite a bit of "glam" but, have recently started a "co-op" with a pin-up airbrush artist and have been seeking a better light setup. I like yours and think I'll give it a shot this weekend. I think I'll add a sheet of white backer board on the floor for a little reflection as well.
Doug
John Haldane
08-04-2008, 08:47 PM
John.....thanks for the CC. I appreciate your opinion even if you think it's a sign of your age :) Actually your opinion means more than most for the simple reason that you are telling me what appeals to you without being clouded by experience with Portrait Photography. That's actually the way I try to shoot. I've always said that in order to break the rules you have to know them first, but how sweet it is when you break the rules !!!!!!
Oh, it is a sign of my age, Tim. I know it with much chagrin. Back in the 60s when my parents ragged on long hair and beards, I swore I would never be like that.
OUCH. I have become my father! Well, there are good parts to that, of course, but I literally laugh at myself for my dislike of what kids today like (piercings, tattoos, rap music).
I apologize to all who like those things. I know I am an old fuddy-duddy; I just can't help it. :scratchhead:
Oh, it is a sign of my age, Tim. I know it with much chagrin. Back in the 60s when my parents ragged on long hair and beards, I swore I would never be like that.
OUCH. I have become my father! Well, there are good parts to that, of course, but I literally laugh at myself for my dislike of what kids today like (piercings, tattoos, rap music).
I apologize to all who like those things. I know I am an old fuddy-duddy; I just can't help it. :scratchhead:
Tim Ellis
08-04-2008, 11:32 PM
John, that's what makes your opinion so refreshing !! :)
April Haldy
08-04-2008, 11:59 PM
ok tim i am in LOVE with the :blue" one i love her expression, the way the colors contract i just LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Tim Ellis
08-05-2008, 12:55 AM
ok tim i am in LOVE with the :blue" one i love her expression, the way the colors contract i just LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Thanx April !!! Just to let you know that your not alone. The girl that I shot these for liked the Blue one as well. So far the order is for over 1k
Thanx April !!! Just to let you know that your not alone. The girl that I shot these for liked the Blue one as well. So far the order is for over 1k
April Haldy
08-05-2008, 01:11 AM
Thanx April !!! Just to let you know that your not alone. The girl that I shot these for liked the Blue one as well. So far the order is for over 1k
WOW that's awesome :) i can't wait to get my first order over 1k :nopity:
WOW that's awesome :) i can't wait to get my first order over 1k :nopity:
Tim Ellis
08-05-2008, 04:10 AM
WOW that's awesome :) i can't wait to get my first order over 1k :nopity:
Don't worry, your getting there...fast :)
Don't worry, your getting there...fast :)
Ernie Bustamante
08-13-2008, 09:17 PM
On your second set of images your first two are a little bit over processed. Her skin tone is off and way to smooth. Looks to fake for me. Your third image is nice. More natural looking. Great pose and a wonderful smile. Youra littl hot on the left side but it works out for the most part. Your best one is the last image. Armpits aside cause they are really nothing to look at. Nice composition, great capture of her eyes. But back to the armpit. It's an eye sore and for the most part they almost always overpower the shot. Doing pin-up watch that. It will make for a nicer inage.
Tim Ellis
08-13-2008, 11:43 PM
thanks Ernie :)
Cinnamon Davidson
09-03-2008, 03:05 PM
Love all of these!! Very cool.
How do you put the spots of color behind them?
How do you put the spots of color behind them?
Tim Ellis
09-03-2008, 06:59 PM
Love all of these!! Very cool.
How do you put the spots of color behind them?
thank you...... I learned the spot technique from Robert Alvarado...and i believe it is proprietary to Robert so i can't really tell you how to do it. If you contact Robert he will probably tell you. I'm pretty open about techniques that I create myself but in this case I know he's creating a DVD for sale. I will tell you that you can create it pretty easy with another layer and then extacting the model and putting her in front of the spot that you've created. Tools used : Extract tool, Circle marque tool, gradient tool,
How do you put the spots of color behind them?
thank you...... I learned the spot technique from Robert Alvarado...and i believe it is proprietary to Robert so i can't really tell you how to do it. If you contact Robert he will probably tell you. I'm pretty open about techniques that I create myself but in this case I know he's creating a DVD for sale. I will tell you that you can create it pretty easy with another layer and then extacting the model and putting her in front of the spot that you've created. Tools used : Extract tool, Circle marque tool, gradient tool,
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